I just wanted to post that I've recently asked this in the comments of several youtube videos for vocal expansion packs of Avenger:
"Why would anyone buy this if paying customers CANNOT use the VOCLAS in this VOCAL expansion in their commercial releases?
From your terms of use: https://www.vengeance-sound.com/terms.php
“This is not a transfer of title.
2 Under the Licence you may not and shall not, without Our express written authorization:
[…]
- commercially use any compositions, melodies, melody-loops, lyrics, and vocal-samples or parts hereof from any Vengeance Samples or Audio Plugin Libraries. All rights on melodies, musical compositions, lyrics, vocals, and melody-loops included in Vengeance Samples or Audio Plugin Libraries are owned by Us and are reserved.”
I've posted this under several videos, because I had already asked about this in this very thread and nobody could answer this question, and I also emailed the Vengeance support multiple times to clear up the license confusion I haven't received a single answer in over a year.
The crazy thing is, ALL of my comments have been deleted and if I try to post them again, they are immediately deleted from the comments section. This feels like they don't want potential customers to know that they basically cannot use these vocals in their commercial releases.
At this point, I just want to raise awareness: DO NOT BUY VOCAL EXPANSION PACKS, because the license forbids you to use ANYTHING with a melody and especially lyrics in your commercial releases.
The other expansion packs should be fine I think, but as it stands, the vocal expansion packs are a waste of money if you cannot use the vocals in it imho.
As an example, take a look at this youtube video of a demo for an Avenger expansion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtfSGI03FQ4
If you like the vocal phrase "Even when I'm dreaming" and want to use it in your own song, you cannot do that. I'm not talking about using the whole composition of course. I'm just talking about the vocal phrase.
Even if you modify it, you cannot use it, since the lyrics are also protected and cannot be used. In order to use this vocal sample, you'd have to chop it up so much that the lyrics become incomprehensible, which defeats the purpose of a vocal expansion pack imho.
That's correct, and it happens with any synthesizer on the market. The 'SQ' in avenger are an example of a group of sounds, of what the synth is capable of doing, NOT for you to upload them to Spotify and take credit for something that you didn't program or play a single note and want to make money with that sequence. The same goes for vocal phrases and their examples. Buy yourself a microphone and use your precious voice to emulate a bit of what the Avenger demonstrates, and be creative with the lyrics, you can create them with A.I. for example, be creative! Paying for a sound expansion of any synthesizer does NOT give you the right to copyright it yourself. Create your own songs, Avenger is a synthesizer with incredible potential! Good luck !
Statistics: Posted by Chipi — Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:05 am